Facts — surely that had never happened before and would never happen again …Imagine that
All the Way to Washington: Howard Dean and the Fight to Take Back America
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Watched — always fun to see TLs set during the early 2000s
Recently played the TCT Showcase W. mod and it’s gotten me hook on 2000s-era politics.
Recently played the TCT Showcase W. mod and it’s gotten me hook on 2000s-era politics.
Don't even get me started on that. You ask me Jeb Bush's "Please clap" moment was way worse than Howard Dean yelling once in a way that seemed a little unhinged and somehow rendered him unelectable. If anything him yelling showed his passion and enthusiasm and energy.
I like the “Please Clap” moment, and from what I saw and heard and read, the guy tried to make a joke… which was as good as my jokes which means that it is bad. Real bad, in fact!
okay so the thing was that earlier in the speech people kept clapping when he was trying to talk so he had to be like "please let me finish before you clap" and the "please clap" was meant to be a "Alright NOW you can clap" thing
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What most people forget, or don't know, was that Dean's campaign was pretty much over before the "Scream." It had peaked way too early and had been losing altitude since roughly the late summer of 2003. His endorsement from Al Gore wasn't helpful. Then him and Gephardt piled on each other. And the Democratic establishment rallied behind John Kerry, fearing a McGovern esque lose with a Dean nomination, or a President Dean really shaking up the party and putting them out to pasture.
I guess to keep him in the running then you need to both keep him competitive with the general public (ie avoiding random scandals like the scream) and you need to perhaps kneecap the Kerry campaign.
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Maybe have the Democrats win the 2002 Midterms, instead of losing them, that puts Gephardt in the Speakership. And Democrats don't overreact to the "patriotism," of the early 2000's. Maybe something on the Iraq War front blows up? There was some opposition in the GOP towards the Iraq War, including the number two House Republican, that was kept private and tamped down into submission.
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Just throwing ideas out there. I actually added some more to my OP.
when this TL gets a bajillion turtledoves, an oscar, and a broadway adaptation, just remember: I'm still an ATWTW truther... nobody completes a project on here anymore
Wdym by ATWTW truther?? Hahah
All the way to Washington — the title of the timeline which is itself taken from the Dean Scream remarks