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  1. Why the Balkans was never Turkified

    I have to leave now. Will continue to later.

  2. Why the Balkans was never Turkified

    First of all... wow... did not see that one coming. I thought people here were civilised. SO ? I do not care. What relevance does it have to the discussion? Explain Again you are obssessed with these English. What is up with this? A Grand Vezir sure as hell is. ok.... what? now we are...

  3. Why the Balkans was never Turkified

    And i did say that the Ottoman Empire was "very tolerant and advanced" for it's age, but the things you said pointed towards something short of discrimination of Muslims in favour of Christians in a Muslim Empire (insitutionally more advantaged than Muslims you said). In theory maybe, but in...

  4. Why the Balkans was never Turkified

    Maybe i did but what is the relevance? Did i compare the Ottomans to England? No. Did i judge them and said that one is better than the other? No. I was merely saying that the Ottomans weren't invited to rule the Balkans. They were invited to fulfil a military role, receive their "payment" and...

  5. Why the Balkans was never Turkified

    Sorry, i don't get it. What all government posts? How many Christians were Vezirs, Grandvezirs, beylerbeys, Jannisary agas, muftis ?? Excluding some early naval officers and dragomans... and some harem women , what were the other Christian government posts or important functions? Or do you...

  6. Why the Balkans was never Turkified

    I have to agree with a lot of what you said but: Requesting help from an Anatolian principality in a dynastic struggle, and using them mostly as merceneries (albeit not paying them with cash) to fend off rival factions, is not the same thing as inviting the Ottomans to establish a Muslim...

  7. Why the Balkans was never Turkified

    I personally find this logic disgusting. Stating that they are the original victims is just wrong. The Muslims invaded,occupied,sacked,plundered and submited the populations of Anatolia and the Balkans to secondary citizen status for 400 years. But this whole logic of who started it first should...

  8. Why the Balkans was never Turkified

    First you said that you meant Muslims by Turks and then you said that Turkified means taking in their customs (as in language and national awareness) ?? Which one is it then? And as said previously by others, the Balkans were the centre of power for the Ottomans during the first period of...

  9. Why the Balkans was never Turkified

    It really depends on what "turkified" means. Albanians and Bosniaks are mainly Muslim but that does not make them Turks, it just makes them Muslim. After all, as stated previously, it is hard to describe what the Turkish nation was before the 20th century. To Dan1988... The same could be said...

  10. Karl Retakes The Hungarian Throne

    The French and British did not intervene in ANY way when Germany broke international treaties, Germany a state that threatened France directly, one that could dominate the continent.... yet you are suggesting that France, Romania's traditional ally and Western benefactor at that time, as well as...

  11. Could "Israel" have been carved out of Germany?

    Well Palestine 50 years ago wasn't that great either yet by investing lots and lots of money they made it a rich and fertile region. Don't see why they couldn't do the same in Madagascar. Regarding the French, i suppose they could sell the island or give it. A strong french jewish lobby might...

  12. Karl Retakes The Hungarian Throne

    Rightfully belonging? Excuse me?

  13. Karl Retakes The Hungarian Throne

    The supposed affinity of Poles towards Hungarians does not have any relevance. Foreign policy is not affected by these things. Relations were strained between Hungary and the Little Entente and any sign of Habsburg restoration would be viewed as the first step towards the recovery of the...

  14. Karl Retakes The Hungarian Throne

    I doubt the Poles would risk damaging relations with Romania only to bring back the Habsburgs. Romania was Poland's only regional ally against the USSR, which was a huge threat to the Polish state. I don't see how a Habsburg ruled Hungary and/or Austria could benefit them enough to jeopardise...

  15. The Islamic Caliphate captures Constantinople!

    The Bulgars had been present in Wallachia for some years now and had campaigned in the late 670s south of the Danube, being aknowledged by treaty in 681 as rulers of Dobrogea ( which was Roman land) as a consequence of a defeat in battle of Constantine IV by Asparuh. They also got control of...

  16. The Islamic Caliphate captures Constantinople!

    I doubt the Arabs would have the forces to conquer significant territories outside the walls of the city so my guess is that something similar to 1204 might happen... several states rise in Macedonia, Epirus and Greece that would try to regain the city OR most Roman territories fall under Bulgar...

  17. WI Vienna fell in 1683?

    Well... even if the mine explodes, they still have to face the large German-Polish relief force sent against them. However, if they somehow manage to stop the allied force and keep Vienna over the winter than i think the Ottomans would be in a really good position to dictate terms to the...

  18. Population exchange between Turkey and Cyprus/Yugoslavia

    It really depends on WHEN do these population transfers happen. It cannot happpen in OTL 1920s-30s Yugoslavia because the whole reason for the state's existence was to ensure that all Slavs live united in it. Also population exchanges are done almost exclusively as a result of war or threat of...

  19. I, Belisarius

    What about the Avars, Slavs and the Bulgars? they cannot be butterflied away by the POD and they were as much of a threat to the existence of the empire as were the Muslims or the Sassanids. And even if Islam is butterflied away, there would still be an increasing threat coming from the...

  20. What if Poland joins Hitler's side?

    It is not fair comparing 10 000 more or less assimilated Sorbs with 20 million politically aware, nationalistic Poles all concentrated in one big region and with a tradition of rebellion against foreign rule. I know you said it was terribly implausible, but imo it's even less than that.
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