I could see America ITTL basically being like “Japanese war crimes? What war crimes?”ITTL it wouldn't even go that far. China would be too hostile to America for the US to side against Japan.
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I could see America ITTL basically being like “Japanese war crimes? What war crimes?”ITTL it wouldn't even go that far. China would be too hostile to America for the US to side against Japan.
Dystopias are overrated.
Pretty much.I could see America ITTL basically being like “Japanese war crimes? What war crimes?”
Don't forget the part of Americans accusing the Chinese of projecting onto the Japanese the crimes they themselves commit.I could see America ITTL basically being like “Japanese war crimes? What war crimes?”
Or focusing solely on Chinese war crimes against let’s say the Vietnamese, bonus points if the Americans back Ho Chi Minh or some expy of him, while drastically downplaying Tokyo’s own war crimes against Koreans or Chinese civilians in territories occupied by Japan itself or having American forces turn a blind eye to those Japanese atrocities in case of joint occupation(s).Don't forget the part of Americans accusing the Chinese of projecting onto the Japanese the crimes they themselves commit.
Because people tends to believe that is something intrinsec in Japanese culture or something like this...I don't see why Japan has to even be committing war crimes in the first place tbh.
It's the same with Germany. You still have people calling the German Empire proto Nazis.Because people tends to believe that is something intrinsec in Japanese culture or something like this...
Because people tends to believe that is something intrinsec in Japanese culture or something like this...
Hmm, that reminds me of @Augenis TL, centred on Lithuania, The Silver Knight, it certainly was closer to a Japan screw than a 'Japan always ends up being a superpower regardless of the POD', scenario.The empire of Japan always ends up being a superpower regardless of the POD. Often Japan gets to remilitarise and create its own sphere even in timelines set after WW2
We need more Japan screws, guys. What's the point of writing alternate history if you don't create more original and insane dystopias for other countries???
I tried to read the thread but it seemed to me that it was more of a discussion than a TL as such. Not to mention that, in addition to reflecting the all-powerful CSA, the OP is also a good example of the trope I've mentioned more than once: the idea that "look how much money we can make if we trade" would be more than enough reason for USA and CSA shake hands as allies and decide that everything is forgiven and forgotten between themWe usually keep talking about supposedly common tropes at abstract ways and rarely see examples. This week one showed up, one of the most annoying to me: https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/what-really-is-the-future-of-the-csa.551971/
The all-powerful CSA.
I think its because showing examples of what we are talking about by posting the TLs and such is kinda distasteful since you'd only be exposing authors works to negative attentionWe usually keep talking about supposedly common tropes at abstract ways and rarely see examples.
The all-powerful CSA.
Its always either one or the other reallyAlso the majority of the posters are in the side "No matter what they attempt, CSA is fated to doom from the start."
I tried to read the thread but it seemed to me that it was more of a discussion than a TL as such. Not to mention that, in addition to reflecting the all-powerful CSA, the OP is also a good example of the trope I've mentioned more than once: the idea that "look how much money we can make if we trade" would be more than enough reason for USA and CSA shake hands as allies and decide that everything is forgiven and forgotten between them
Also the majority of the posters are in the side "No matter what they attempt, CSA is fated to doom from the start."
Because God must compensate them for their territorial loss after allAnd of course, the classic notion that the rump US will conquer Canada (and the British Empire),
Because the USSR is so old news, gotta have US vs US ya know?and for some reason both become superpowers in an Alt Cold War.
Its like, if Brazil was a superpower, that half of the Alternate History discussions were about the Ragmuffin Rebellion and the other half about our participation in WW2Another thing that bothers me on this CSA discussions is the idea many Americans have that the whole world is interested on it
I mean thats a pretty broad brush your putting. I am the son of Indian Immigrants and find that whole period of American History fascinating though I suppose it might not have the same popular appeal as Nazi Germany.....and TBH I’d argue the whole fixation on that is mostly a Western European/Anglo-Latin America thing. In South Asia people know and care so little about mustache man they use him as a fucking restaurant mascot to sell fried Chicken and Ice Cream lolAnother thing that bothers me on this CSA discussions is the idea many Americans have that the whole world is interested on it, just like they're on the Nazi Germany, for example. In reality, even foreign historian nerds don't care about it. It's an US domestic thing.
And the love lives of the Kings of the House of Braganza....Not that I can talk lol.Its like, if Brazil was a superpower, that half of the Alternate History discussions were about the Ragmuffin Rebellion and the other half about our participation in WW2
If you want a USSR analog for the Americans to fight I have no idea why you wouldn’t go with the Imperial Federation.Because the USSR is so old news, gotta have US vs US ya know?