Red Alert - Our 1953 USSR

Honestly, I'd like to depose the Kim family and replace them with a more competent and non-militaristic leader.
I mean the hard part is finding someone that would be better in any way different from the Kims. This is early North Korea we are talking about which is going to be hard to find someone that does not fallow the socialist foundations.
 
I mean the hard part is finding someone that would be better in any way different from the Kims. This is early North Korea we are talking about which is going to be hard to find someone that does not fallow the socialist foundations.
True but I'd like to save North Korea from the Kims though.
 

1. Should all German POW's be released from the Soviet imprisonment?
A)
Yes. They will serve us better by strengthening the economic output of East Germany. We need the East to recover quickly so that it doesn't become that much poorer than the West like in OTL. The Soviet economic shouldn't be running on Slave Camps too. Kill the known war criminals and the SS officers, if there are any still alive under our possession. Release all the rest.

4. As General Secretary Zhukov is now 6 months in charge, it's high time to form a stance of the new Soviet government towards the legacy of 30-years of Joseph Stalin. Please write it down.

Do not condemn Stalin, after all, he was only 30% bad, if you know what I mean.
 
Last edited:
I mean the hard part is finding someone that would be better in any way different from the Kims. This is early North Korea we are talking about which is going to be hard to find someone that does not fallow the socialist foundations.
Pak Kum-Chol is the perfect candidate for it. He was the leader of the failed Kapsan Faction Conspiracy during the 60s, as was executed by Kim Il Sung during his consolidation of power phase, when Pak was the second man of the Korean regime.

His alledged disagreavences with Kim are exactly the type of thing we would want to reform. He was too a veteran guerilla fighter, but favored focus on light industry over heavy and preached some limited economic liberalization.

I say we should kill Kim while we still can and substitute him for this guy. He can't be that bad, and we out to not let North Korea become such a depraved totalitarian monarchy. Its important that we preserve the image of the communist countries by preventing people like the Kims and Pol-Pot from coming to or staying on power.

We aren't looking for a genius, just someone who wouldn't adopt or create Juche. Someone who can be included into the reformed market-socialist economy of the Eastern Bloc we are going to create.

The biggest risk of this operation would be pissing off Mao and unconsciously causing the Sino-Soviet Split. So maybe a lighter hand would fare better. Assassinate Kim with the KGB and make it look like a inside job. We can't have to luxury to intervene directly.

Could we have a vote on this? @panpiotr
 
Last edited:
Pak Kum-Chol is the perfect candidate for it. He was the leader of the failed Kapsan Faction Conspiracy during the 60s, as was executed by Kim Il Sung during his consolidation of power phase.

His alledged disagreavences with Kim are exactly the type of thing we would want to reform. He was too a veteran guerilla fighter, but favored focus on light industry over heavy and preached some limited economic liberalization.

I say we should kill Kim while we still can and substitute him for this guy. He can't be that bad, and we out to not let North Korea become such a depraved totalitarian monarchy. Its important that we preserve the image of the communist countries by preventing people like the Kims and Pol-Pot from coming to or staying on power.
Perhaps we can have Yakov Novichenko assist us in removing Kim and give him a Hero of the Soviet Union medal.
 
it’s time guys to make the Comitern more international and act like a sorta world government (mandate each other and also help eachother)
The Comintern was dissolved back in 1943. In 1947, in its place, the Information Bureau of Communist and Workers' Parties (Cominform) was created, with slightly more limited functions. Cominform members:
Albanian Labor Party
Bulgarian Communist Party
Communist Party of Czechoslovakia
French Communist Party
Communist Party of the Soviet Union
Polish United Workers' Party
Communist Party of Romania
Hungarian Workers' Party
Italian Communist Party
Communist Party of Yugoslavia (expelled in June 1948)
Communist Party of the Free Territory of Trieste (since 1948, after the expulsion of the Communist Party of Yugoslavia from the Cominform)

His alledged disagreavences with Kim are exactly the type of thing we would want to reform. He was too a veteran guerilla fighter, but favored focus on light industry over heavy and preached some limited economic liberalization.

I say we should kill Kim while we still can and substitute him for this guy. He can't be that bad, and we out to not let North Korea become such a depraved totalitarian monarchy. Its important that we preserve the image of the communist countries by preventing people like the Kims and Pol-Pot from coming to or staying on power.
In fact, Comrade Kim is not against some reforms - if they help “National Greatness”. The only problem is that Korea exists in a state of "Cold Civil War". So, first of all, we need to destabilize South Korea and ensure that the Americans no longer bother it.
 
Last edited:
Honestly, I was for continuing the Korean War but some people chose to be cowards... now we're continuing OTL with both Koreas....
 
The Comintern was dissolved back in 1943. In 1947, in its place, the Information Bureau of Communist and Workers' Parties (Cominform) was created, with slightly more limited functions. Cominform members:
We could expand the cominform for more international cooperation and to make sure any new communist movements follow the soviet Union as their role model (so we do not have a China situation again)
 
We could expand the cominform for more international cooperation and to make sure any new communist movements follow the soviet Union as their role model (so we do not have a China situation again)
This could create problems in relations with Yugoslavia - in Yugoslav propaganda, Cominform exists only as an instrument of Soviet foreign policy (which is not completely untrue).
 
1. I back @Imperador Pedro III in their approach. Any remaining war criminals should be done with.
2. Empower the secret police and intelligence agencies to deal with corruption. Fear will push both the old and new in line.
3. I absolutely oppose efforts to liberalize. I back @Kurd Gossemer in their approach, which seems both collaborative and aggressive as the heads of the revolution should be.
4. Zhukov is the successor of Joseph Stalin, so he should act like it. Shift the Cult of Personality to Zhukov. No criticism of our new great leader. Any openings from the de-Stalinization should be ready to be filled up by Zhukov haters. Of course, we should minimize the efforts to de-Stalinize, but if the reformist wave is too much to stop, might as well jump ship to a new head.
 
1. Should all German POW's be released from the Soviet imprisonment?
B) No
Many of those have committed what today would be warcrimes. Their leadership definitely deserves no quarter, the grunts we theoretically could release for harsh labor punishment in East Germany.
2. Please write down how should upcoming administrative reform/anti-corruption and anti-bureaucracy campaign be done?
For administrative reform: Gradually, scientifically and with time to see impact of changes. Corruption: over two axles, 1) looking at opportunity (lack of checks and balances), 2) onnwho lives beyond their means. This is doable in a relatively short time.

Concurrently I'd like to propose that all Soviet citizens (yes all non military) incorporate KPI's to get all benefits except healthcare and education. There needs to be an element of reward. Also allow individuals an anonymous whistle blower option, to signal inefficiency, incompetence and corruption. And have semi annual or annual competitions where Soviet & Warsaw pact citizens can submit improvement ideas. Reward winners well, reward teamwork slightly better (10-15%). Build a culture of joint ownership and responsibility.

@TheImperialTheorist i like your view here too:
but we should also reduce the incentive for corruption by encouraging honesty and competence. Perhaps reducing the penalties for failure to meeting quotas and encourage record-keeping for stronger veracity.
I think by doing that, plus having them to come up with a WHY and a HOW TO SOLVE, and actually doing something with it will reinforce the above mentioned culture of joint ownership and responsibility.
3. In a few weeks time, General Secretary Zhukov will attend a summit in Moscow, where he will meet with leaders of Eastern European governments. Please write down, on which topics should the summit focus on?
1) Economic recovery, 2) housing, healthcare & education recovery, 3) citizens participation in a safe way
4. As General Secretary Zhukov is now 6 months in charge, it's high time to form a stance of the new Soviet government towards the legacy of 30-years of Joseph Stalin. Please write it down.
Stalin was a murderous piece of shit. However, we can't drop him like that. Deemphasize him, switch his portrait with Lenin and such, only talk about the People's achievements during that time. Stalin (should) and Zhukov (will) serve the people, not the other way around.

5:
Use all Soviet groups, like schools, youth groups, sport clubs, unions, etc etc ro promote teamwork and constent improvement.

6:
As a humanitarian: Try to replace Mao with a sensible person before 1958 ("Great leap forward"). As a wank the USSR above anyone else: don't.
 
Last edited:
Top