Post WWIII SH superpowers
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PROBABLY Australia, as they are likely to be targeted by a limited to non-existent number of ICBMs and are isolated. It's likely that the other countries you named will experience rebel insurrections, failed states, food crises, refugees, and other problems.
Still, doesn't matter really... life is really going to suck for whomever survives.
Still, doesn't matter really... life is really going to suck for whomever survives.
In the early 60s, the US would probably be okay, by around the 70s you begin to see the US face collapse as the nuclear gap closer. I think either a South American nation or Australia would be your best bet in a full exchange where they manage to not get hitt, but I don't think either will be "super powers" in the pre war sense, just the largest coherent states if they manage to escape annihilation.
LucaTheDevilCat
Banned
Unless South Africa manages to attract enough white refugees in time and resorts to ‘questionable methods’ wink wink then you’re gonna have a gory setting.
These might help:
https://www.deviantart.com/quantumbranching/art/Fascist-Australia-348618954
https://www.deviantart.com/moxn/art/Picking-up-the-Pieces-in-Africa-653423780
These might help:
https://www.deviantart.com/quantumbranching/art/Fascist-Australia-348618954
https://www.deviantart.com/moxn/art/Picking-up-the-Pieces-in-Africa-653423780
lordapocalipsis
Banned
seeing how they keep segregation, and their extreme differences in society; maybe they collapse
In the period:
Australia does not have a self sufficient consumer economy.
Australia does not have a self sufficient heavy industrial economy.
Australia does not have a self sufficient engineering capacity.
Take the UKs problems of scale. Then imagine them with a society a fourth the size.
Australia’s repressive apparatus are built on a great deal of hegemonic institutions: sport, the ALP, the unions, the left of the Catholic Church, the right of the Catholic Church. This makes grand schemes based on generalised repression of groups of more than 10% of the population difficult. And the 10% was only successful due to settler genocide and culturally encoded anti-Aboriginality.
And after an exchange when an isolated externally dependent economy needs to become instantly self sufficient *at the cost* of the hegemonising institutions the capacity for governance in the interests of the elite will break down.
This is to say that the NSW ALP right and Trades Hall have a better chance post exchange than Ming or other dings. Now this won’t abolish the value form, but it will lead to a nomenklatura society. NSW Incorporated if you will. Don’t cross the property developers.
Australia does not have a self sufficient consumer economy.
Australia does not have a self sufficient heavy industrial economy.
Australia does not have a self sufficient engineering capacity.
Take the UKs problems of scale. Then imagine them with a society a fourth the size.
Australia’s repressive apparatus are built on a great deal of hegemonic institutions: sport, the ALP, the unions, the left of the Catholic Church, the right of the Catholic Church. This makes grand schemes based on generalised repression of groups of more than 10% of the population difficult. And the 10% was only successful due to settler genocide and culturally encoded anti-Aboriginality.
And after an exchange when an isolated externally dependent economy needs to become instantly self sufficient *at the cost* of the hegemonising institutions the capacity for governance in the interests of the elite will break down.
This is to say that the NSW ALP right and Trades Hall have a better chance post exchange than Ming or other dings. Now this won’t abolish the value form, but it will lead to a nomenklatura society. NSW Incorporated if you will. Don’t cross the property developers.
Actually Australia was quite self sufficient untill the early 90's. Between the 60's and 90's AUstralia had a huge manufacutring base which at times made up 25% of our GDP. We made everything from, cars, fridges, aircons, microwaves, planes, ect,plus during this time we weren't reliant on fuel imports as we used and refined our own oile. We have have huge resource sector which supplied our manufacturing. Additionaly our massize agriculture sector produces enough food to feed 3-4x times australia's population. Australia being Isolated after a nuclear war wouldn't change much any way cause before we were already pretty isolated from the rest of the world. Our economy might take a hit due to there being not as much export money being made, but we would still be the most stable and powerfull nation left after a nuclear war
Of course WWIII only occurred in 2044 in the book, so a lot could have happened in Brazil between that and the book's date of publication (1959).