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A Bizarre Peace Proposal: Slice Europe Up Like a Pie
All 24 cantons would meet at St Stephen's cathedral in Vienna
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That article was certainly...an article.A Bizarre Peace Proposal: Slice Europe Up Like a Pie
All 24 cantons would meet at St Stephen's cathedral in Vienna
I love how it was very progressive in some ways and super regressive in others. It's always fun to read stuff from that period and see how people are all "And we are all God's children, man and woman, Christian and Jew and Mohammedan, but also people with development disabilities should be killed at birth."
Heh, I already have it in my Favorites folder on dA, quite a bit of the continent is owned by a bunch of Mary's
That idea isn't not progressive though.... just really controversial.
The Empire of Persia(Irānshahr, informally Irān) is a country in the Middle East. It is the world’s only majority-Zoroastrian country in the world. Persia’s history dates back to the Indo-European migrations, when it was settled by Indo-Aryan tribes. The early Persians originally practiced a polytheistic religion akin to the Vedic religion, but the new religion of Zoroastrianism would gradually replace it. Founded by the prophet Zoroaster(known in Avesta as Zarathustra and in Persian as Zartosht), this new religion focused on the dualistic struggle between good and evil, represented respectively by the creator god Anura Mazda and the evil spirit Ahriman. The first major Persian Empire was the Median Empire of Cyaraxes, which rose to prominence after the fall of the Assyrian Empire. The Median Empire would later fall to Cyrus the Great’s Achaemenid Empire. Under the kings Cyrus, Cambyses, Darius, and Xerxes, the Achaemenid Empire would reach its height of power before gradually declining and eventually being conquered by Alexander the Great and incorporated into the Macedonian Empire.
Following Alexander’s death, Persia would be given to his general Seleucus, who founded the Seleucid Empire. The Seleucids would in turn fall to the Parthian Arsacid dynasty, who continued the Hellenistic tradition. The Arsacids would eventually be overthrown by the Sassanid dynasty under Ardashir I, who reestablished Zoroastrianism as the state religion and oversaw a Persian cultural revival. The Sassanids fought a series of wars with the Romans, which ultimately weakened both of them and resulted in Persia’s conquest by the early Islamic Caliphate. Persia would be ruled by the Rashidun, Umayyad, and Abbasid Caliphates until various native Persian states began to reappear as the Abbasids began to decline. One such regional warlord was a Zoroastrian from Tabaristan named Mardavij, who established the Ziyarid Dynasty. Mardavij conquered a decently-sized empire, establishing his capital at Isfahan, before beginning a campaign towards Baghdad to depose the Abbasid Caliphate and entire the Persian Empire[1]. Mardavij and his successors would then dedicate their attention to stabilizing their empire, and strengthening the position of Zoroastrianism while also appeasing the empire’s decently-sized Muslim minority.
The Ziyarid Empire would ultimately be conquered; first by the Seljuk Turks, then by the Mongol Empire, but the effect of putting Persia back on the map after centuries of Arab rule and overseeing a Zoroastrian renaissance would be felt. The Ilkhanid Empire, a Mongol successor state, would embrace Zoroastrianism before falling to the Muslim Timur. However, following the overthrow of the Timurids, Zoroastrianism would once again be made state religion, under the Khosrauid Dynasty(dubiously claiming descent from Khosrow II, the last great Sassanid Shah). The Khosrauids would go into decline as various European powers rose to international prominence, and going into the Nineteenth Century Khosrauid Persia became divided into British and Russian spheres of influence.
In 1923, Khosrauid Shah Ardashir V would be deposed by an army commander by the name of Kawus Farokhzad, who would declare himself the Shah of the new Farokhi dynasty. Following Kawus’ death in 1948, he would be succeeded by his son Rostam, who embarked on a series of reforms intended to modernize the country. Upon Rostam’s death in 1977, he would be succeeded by his young son, Kawus II, with his brother Kavadh places as regent. Under Kavadh’s guidance, Kawus would begin to gradually introduce democratic reforms to placate the country’s growing middle class and curb the growth of radical movements. In 1983, Kawus II would agree to draft a constitution formally creating a democratically elected parliament. In 2011, Kawus II would formally abdicate the throne, living outside the capital of Isfahan until his death in 2020. The new Shah Bahram would complete Persia’s transition to democracy, renouncing any executive power. Persia today is a constitutional monarchy. The current Prime Minister is Shahin Babaki of the Zoroastrian Democratic Party. The country’s economy is heavily based on exporting oil. Persia is generally considered a developing country, and is considerably less developed than some of its oil-rich neighbors[2]. As a result, many Persians have immigrated into Russia and the Ottoman Empire, two wealthier countries on Persia’s borders, in search of a better life. However, many consider the ancient country’s future to be optimistic.
[1]IOTL, Mardavij was assassinated by his Turkic slaves before this could happen
[2]Unlike OTL Iran, TTL’s Persia lacks the oil fields of Khuzestan
Alright so I finally finished the full political label map for this project; everything else I make for it I'll probably just be posting to my DA.
Quick Backstory:
In this world Christianity saw several setbacks in Central and Northern Europe leading to the indigenous belief systems lasting longer, however most of Europe did eventually Christianize, though syncretism becoming more common and many of the indigenous faiths surviving as minorities.
One of the more unique aspects of this is in Græswaldland, where the major belief system is based on Witchcraft and Magik; originally a syncretic mix of Christianity and paganism, by the modern day the magic aspect is the primary belief system and it has become a Universalist belief system.
The term 'Hexenstat', initially as an insult but later adopted by adherents, would become common in Europe as a synecdoche for the polity throughout its evolution.
For the sake of clarity magic is (probably) not real ITTL, however it has become an established belief system.
The Mongol-Turkic invasions did happen, however unlike IOTL the bulk of them in the Middle-East and Caucasia adopted Christianity, most clearly seen historically in the form of the 'Great Khaganate of Christ' that at its height ruled over the entirety of Caucasia, the Eastern half of Anatolia, parts of the Northern Middle-East and parts of Central Asia.
NOTES:
1. France did not form in the medieval era, rather the North was dominated by the Kingdom of Neustrie*, while the South was comprised of various Occitan polities who managed to retain their independence; it would not be until 1850 that the various polities federated following nearly twenty years of negotiation.
2. Sachsen likewise did not federate until 1875, in part due to historical rivalries between its component states, but also due to various neighboring polities trying to prevent it throughout the years; Pataboarn was chosen as the capital as it was an independent city-state and, unofficially because it was the cost for Græswaldland's backing as Pataboarn is essentially a Holy City to the former's belief system.
3. There is an analogue to the EU ITTL, however I didn't want to clutter things by showing it.
4. València is one of the most diverse and cosmopolitan states of Europe, owing in part to its history as a refuge for Jews, Muslims and other groups facing persecution in the rest of Iberia; this is historically one of the reasons that relations between it and Catalunya have been poor, not helped by the latter having had several fanatical Kings who declared Holy War on València.
5. This world doesn't have any Superpowers, however it does have what we might call Great Powers (the five listed on the top right).
6. Rossiya in this world formed with Novgorod as its nucleus, leading to a very different polity than OTL, and one of the reasons it's one of the largest and influential economies in the world.
6. Serdnazemla was founded initially from the unification/conquest of various statelets in the region of OTL Belarus; this and its history of having antagonistic neighbors has lead to a society that values martial strength and is the reason for it being not just one of the worlds military powers, but is home to many of the worlds preeminent military contractors and arms companies.
7. Britain never unified, however Angland did at various times control more of it; the current situation is the result of the defeat of the 'Anglish Tyranny', a period in time in which a despotic and bigoted Angland controlled Kernow, occupied half of Cymru and made multiple attempts at trying to conquer its neighbors; the Tyranny ended following a popular revolution (with some foreign backing) in which the Royal Family, high ranking members of government and many royalists in general were publicly, and very brutally, executed en masse and a democratic regime was gradually formed. To this day there are more than a few 'Sundown Towns' if you're a Royalist.
Quick Backstory:
In this world Christianity saw several setbacks in Central and Northern Europe leading to the indigenous belief systems lasting longer, however most of Europe did eventually Christianize, though syncretism becoming more common and many of the indigenous faiths surviving as minorities.
One of the more unique aspects of this is in Græswaldland, where the major belief system is based on Witchcraft and Magik; originally a syncretic mix of Christianity and paganism, by the modern day the magic aspect is the primary belief system and it has become a Universalist belief system.
The term 'Hexenstat', initially as an insult but later adopted by adherents, would become common in Europe as a synecdoche for the polity throughout its evolution.
For the sake of clarity magic is (probably) not real ITTL, however it has become an established belief system.
The Mongol-Turkic invasions did happen, however unlike IOTL the bulk of them in the Middle-East and Caucasia adopted Christianity, most clearly seen historically in the form of the 'Great Khaganate of Christ' that at its height ruled over the entirety of Caucasia, the Eastern half of Anatolia, parts of the Northern Middle-East and parts of Central Asia.
NOTES:
1. France did not form in the medieval era, rather the North was dominated by the Kingdom of Neustrie*, while the South was comprised of various Occitan polities who managed to retain their independence; it would not be until 1850 that the various polities federated following nearly twenty years of negotiation.
2. Sachsen likewise did not federate until 1875, in part due to historical rivalries between its component states, but also due to various neighboring polities trying to prevent it throughout the years; Pataboarn was chosen as the capital as it was an independent city-state and, unofficially because it was the cost for Græswaldland's backing as Pataboarn is essentially a Holy City to the former's belief system.
3. There is an analogue to the EU ITTL, however I didn't want to clutter things by showing it.
4. València is one of the most diverse and cosmopolitan states of Europe, owing in part to its history as a refuge for Jews, Muslims and other groups facing persecution in the rest of Iberia; this is historically one of the reasons that relations between it and Catalunya have been poor, not helped by the latter having had several fanatical Kings who declared Holy War on València.
5. This world doesn't have any Superpowers, however it does have what we might call Great Powers (the five listed on the top right).
6. Rossiya in this world formed with Novgorod as its nucleus, leading to a very different polity than OTL, and one of the reasons it's one of the largest and influential economies in the world.
6. Serdnazemla was founded initially from the unification/conquest of various statelets in the region of OTL Belarus; this and its history of having antagonistic neighbors has lead to a society that values martial strength and is the reason for it being not just one of the worlds military powers, but is home to many of the worlds preeminent military contractors and arms companies.
7. Britain never unified, however Angland did at various times control more of it; the current situation is the result of the defeat of the 'Anglish Tyranny', a period in time in which a despotic and bigoted Angland controlled Kernow, occupied half of Cymru and made multiple attempts at trying to conquer its neighbors; the Tyranny ended following a popular revolution (with some foreign backing) in which the Royal Family, high ranking members of government and many royalists in general were publicly, and very brutally, executed en masse and a democratic regime was gradually formed. To this day there are more than a few 'Sundown Towns' if you're a Royalist.
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It might have been like. a year and a half almost?? since I last finished a Worlda patch, but what the hell, I feel like this one's large enough to warrant being posted on the main map thread.
This is only partially correct. Rguibat pledged their allegiance to the Sultan. The pashas were named by the Sultan. For example In Salah, in todays Algeria, was a moroccan pashalik.
Morocco before colonization: the Sultanate in the 19th century.
The first map of a series I've been thinking about, on North Africa's countries before colonization OTL.
Does anyone have a plain colored map of 1914?
Thanks! No names in of countries in the title please
Thanks! No names in of countries in the title please
I blame Cruella de Vil, she heard Dalmacija and thought it was a country full of Dalmatians. 😛
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vgh...
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Good work
It might have been like. a year and a half almost?? since I last finished a Worlda patch, but what the hell, I feel like this one's large enough to warrant being posted on the main map thread.
Nice, I like it the map (though not a biggest fan of that leaf? laurel? quill? in the canton. love the stripes tho). I asume this was an alternate America that had an alternate Civil War (hence the partition of Virginia and the renaming of its mainland)?
As is implied in the notes, Virginia is considerably more *fascistic than Montana (which isn't entirely democratic itself - normal political institutions don't really survive a 3/4 reduction in population all that well). US-Montana has nukes, and is just able to keep enough of a delivery system working to deter the Chinese. Virginia also has some nukes, but is less able to deliver them. Scandinavia is neutral and doesn't have nukes, although it has enough of a nuclear power industry that it could probably produce a few fairly quickly. Switzerland also claims to not have any, but it, too, has a nuclear power industry and is widely suspected of have a sizable bomb-in-the-basement hidden arsenal. A secretive and inscrutable people, the Swiss.
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I suspect democracy even in non-nuked nations hasn’t been doing well with the collapse of trade, nuclear winter etc.
That’s a good summary