America's Funniest President: Mo Udall Presidency & Beyond
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Like I said, I'm looking at MTV or HBO. Adult Cartoon. Same vein as The Maxx, Æon Flux or Spawn.
Perhaps though that does remind me of Spawn and figuring out what to do born from the Dark Age of Comics that would not exist here.
Sergeant Foley
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@CountDVB Good job on the political retrospective in Latin America.
Speaking of which: Does Udall meet with King Juan Carlos I of Spain face-to-face?
Speaking of which: Does Udall meet with King Juan Carlos I of Spain face-to-face?
Most likely at some point, like with all the leaders and whatnot. And yeah, Latin America doing better than OTL.
When we get closer to the 90s I would like TSR to be big enough the Hasbro doesn't buy them out. That way Wizards of the Coast and TSR can merge and Hasbro doesn't ruin Magic:The Gathering
Political Retrospection: 1980 - 1984 Part 2
Political Retrospection: 1980 - 1984 Part 2
Europe (NATO-Aligned)
France was still dealing with the complicated affairs of the Algerian Revolution and moving forward from the decisions there. Economic growth was slowly returning to the nation as it tried to steady itself for the future. Despite the past troubles however, it looked like matters would be going all right and they were arranging for greater economic unity with the rest of Europe Spain meanwhile was also moving forward after the death of Francisco Franco back in the 1970s. Of course, there was still some trouble such as having to deal with an attempted coup by neo-Francoists known as the Tejerazo over in 1981. At the same time, the newer policies and opening has led to a boom in economic and cultural growth, especially with the ascension of the Spanish Socialist Workers’ Party with the hopes of this trend continuing to help Spain. The same as been going on for other nations as well such as Portugal.
West Germany would continue on over with Helmut Schmidt. However, in 1982, there was an attempt at unseating Schmidt and replacing him Helmut Kohl. However, despite the plans put into place for the FDP to go from the SPD to the CDU, the vote was quite close and pressure coming from the uncertainty led to the vote failing only by three votes. As such, Schmidt would remain in power for the time being, though still enjoying some popularity along with a positive relationship with President Udall. Italy also saw some change as the "Pentapartito" coalition would see the Christian Democrats lose favor as voters realized they could support the other four parties of the coalition and maintain the same end goal in trying to avoid the Communists from rising. Then in 1984 would see Italy officially become a secular state with Catholicism no longer the state religion. In other parts of NATO-aligned Europe, the signs of progress continue to develop, such as the rapidly growing liberal ideals over in the Netherlands.
Overall with the NATO-aligned members of Europe, they have been warily watching othe Soviet Union, hoping that the situation can be dealt with long-term and without the concerns for nuclear weaponry. At the same time, the rise of the Udall Administration's successes have brought alot of further positives for the Europeans with Udall becoming quite popular as a respected leader and many noting he seemed to be the idealization of the best aspects of Americans.
Europe (Warsaw Pact)
The early 1980s were a tough time for the Soviet Union. While a combination of learning from the Americans' mistakes and clever usage of saber rattling was enough to avoid a potential war in Afghanistan yet still achieving their goals indirectly, there was still plenty of issues to be had, especially because of what was going on with their leaders dying. There was also the concerns as a result of the economic stagnation going on, especially with the Soviets' lagging behind over in computer sciences and other fields of growing importance. It was becoming clear that there was a need to do reforms and changes, but the how and of course the details were looming over the USSR. However, the positive was in having someone like Udall in charge of the United States. Unlike the more belligerent Reagan, Udall was a man of peace and quite good-natured, reassuring the Soviets enough to be able to start focusing on domestic affairs, especially since Udall was doing the same with the US.
The rest of the Warsaw Pact would see the fractures grow, especially as more and more nations were starting to want out of the Soviet Union's sphere. Poland would see the rise of the independent trade union known as "Solidarity" that would growing more and more to become a threat against the Polish United Workers' Party. Even despite the persecution and the martial law that was put into place starting in 1981. Other nations were starting to rise up more and more against the USSR-imposed governments. This had the rest of Europe keeping an eye on them, wondering what would be happening. The austerity measures put in Romania by Ceaușescu led to further decline in popularity for him while East Germany continued its own form of minor resistance.
Still the complicated relationship, but things are improving. Kinda like how it was with OTL Carter; “Considering Carter well-meaning and sincere, Castro freed certain political prisoners and allowed some Cuban exiles to visit relatives on the island, hoping that in turn Carter would abolish the economic embargo and stop CIA support for militant dissidents”.
US has loosen the economic embargo a bit (I’m guessing it’d be a gradual thing over a number of years) and probably would send some aid to Cuba due to the sugar harvest failure. Also, because Gorbachev’s reforms being different, the relationship between Cuba and the USSR hasn’t stopped the subsidies yet.
Also, I do think that a couple things he did in the 1990s like the import of bikes and so on may start happening sooner.
Well, TSR is on more financially stable ground thanks to their collabs with Henson’s Dark Crystal and Hasbro’s MLP 1st generation.
As such, Gygax was not ousted like OTL back in 1985. However, I have no idea how things would go given he had his marijuana habit in 1970, and may lead to his potential cocaine usage like OTL along with the divorce that happened. He may still leave the company from stress.
Not sure if he’d be bring Lorraine Williams though. That would determine alot of things.
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Sergeant Foley
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@CountDVB Keep up the good work.
Speaking of sports: Do my Texas Longhorns win the 1983 national championship by beating Georgia in the Cotton Bowl Classic?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Texas_Longhorns_football_team
Speaking of sports: Do my Texas Longhorns win the 1983 national championship by beating Georgia in the Cotton Bowl Classic?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Texas_Longhorns_football_team
Maybe? I don't see much change happening there with sports things unless it was close.
I don't know. Sports are not exactly my area of strength. Sorry about that
Most likely! He might do a couple different things after retirement, but still retired at the same time.
Political Retrospection: 1980 - 1984 Part 3
Political Retrospection: 1980 - 1984 Part 3
The Middle East
President Reagan's choices in foreign policy would have some major changes over in the Middle East. The first one would be his pressure on the Shah to deal with Khomeini before he would return to Iran. This would lead the Shah to make an arrangement with Saddam Hussein, leading to his death. While this did not deter the Revolution, the new government that would come to lead Iran would be a secular one in nature. The second change was his insistent to King Khalid of Saudi Arabia on how to deal with the religious extremists after the attack of the Mosque; he suggested that rather than give any leeway, he double down against them since they would be a threat to them and American interests. This led to a clamp down on reactionary elements over in the area, with some success. This and what happened in Iran sent a message to the Middle East and to the world on proceeding forward, that on religious plurality and secularism, beating out the religious extremism that was fueled by anti-Wester sentiments, a form of thought that was dying out from a lack of success on their part and support. Meanwhile, Iran would be growing in power and prestige since their revolution, especially with their war against Iraq, who underestimated their capabilities after the Revolution.
Saudi Arabia meanwhile was having to work to try and suppress the reactionary elements, doubling down on the liberal reforms it had been making. At the same time, it was still trying its best not to upset or agitate some of the elements, maintaining a sort of balancing act regarding the interests. 1982 would see the death of Khalid and the throne taken up by his half-brother Fahd. Fahd's relationship with the western powers became a bit complicated; while he was quite pro-Western and was willing to put aside his concerns with Iran and his Shia subjects thanks to the Iranian Revolution's secular nature meaning he had less concern, he was still not on good terms with Israel and didn't seem in much mood for reform. Despite this, they seem to remain on solid foundations so far and the US remains cordial with them so far. However, some wonder if Saudi Arabia may be in danger of potential troubles, given the Wahabbist roots and the growing troubles against the monarchy. Meanwhile, Iraq has entered war with Iran and it is becoming evident that it is one that they cannot win. Turkey meanwhile has watched over the whole war with concern as Iran has shown sympathies over with the Kurds. Afghanistan meanwhile has begun to further recover from the Saur Standoff and its transistion to a semi-presidental system. The division between the Khalq and Parcham factions within the Afghan communists would weaken them. The tribalism and resentment factors within the Khalq especially weakened them to where when the Parcham recovered, they worked with the National Revolutionary Party to exploit the Khalq's factionalism, crushing them completely and cementing their hold on the new state. The two parties have been getting along more, finding common ground in modernizing their state and their growing animosity toward Pakistan.
Asia
India continued to enter a period of troubles during the early 1980s though it was not until 1984 did matters really worsen, with Operation Blue Star, which would lead to the anti-Sikh riots and for Indira Gandhi's Sikh bodyguards to assassinate her, increasing tensions within the nation, all while some have speculated that Pakistan may have been influencing the Khalistan movement within India. Pakistan itself had been suffering its own problems. Beyond its relationships with the United Stated stagnating due to President Udall's focus on domestic policies and the concerns of a communist uprising in Afghanistan being a dead end, the revelations of Pakistan's secret nuclear program in 1983. Soon, Pakistan would find itself under economic sanctions by NATO and the Warsaw Pact along with many other nations, which would be increasing the tensions already caused by martial law instated by Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq. As such, the attention of major powers have been turned here for the potential outbreak of conflicts or instability, in order to prepare for likely refugee crisises or intervention if need be.
Meanwhile, Japan has entered a prosperous economic age thanks to the rise in white collar work and their influence on the global stage has been increasing steadily, especially with the rise of Japanese media's popularity in places like the US and Europe. China meanwhile has been a fascinating shift as of late. Since the death of Mao, the nation has been undergoing some pragmatic reforms and shifting to a more market socialism like model, though while the reforms have been paying off, it has been causing an increasing amount of tension in the party among some of the hardliners, especially certain members. These reforms had been spearheaded by Hu Yaobang ever since he became General Secretary. China has also been reconnecting with the United States after discussions and talks had stagnated during the era of Reagan. Meanwhile, Korea began the decade with the Gwangju Uprising, which would see the Gwangju citizenry rise up in protest against the autocratic government of the time and would be the start of the Minjung movement. One notable moment was how army crackdowns on the citizenry failed due to Reagan's orders regarding the troops. U.S. Command was nominally in control of the joint forces and as part of Reagan's attempts to still combat Communism yet salvage American reputation was a shift on defensive focus. As such, Chun Doo-hwan was unable to get any of the joint forces moved from the border with North Korea. Additionally, the attempt at doing so soured relations of Chun Doo-hwan with the Americans, costing support with Udall, best seen with the Udall government denouncing the crackdown and the actions done.
Another great update. It's really great seeing other countries and how they are doing in this version of the 80's! Keep it up 
Yeah, they’re doing their best though more changes are coming in the latter half of the 1980s as you can guess.Another great update. It's really great seeing other countries and how they are doing in this version of the 80's! Keep it up