America's Funniest President: Mo Udall Presidency & Beyond
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They’re gradually improving matters. Udall Administration trying to patch up the bad blood after the chaos of Reagan with Panama and so on.
Likely part of infrastructure improvements and overall access and assistance for people with disabilities.
Hope everyone is enjoying this. I know I can be a bit difficult with trying to get details, but I am trying my best here.
I do think that all of this stuff is plausible. Without the Reagan administration and instead with a presidential adminsitration that does care, LGBTQ rights would advance faster. An earlier third wave feminism is a bit nebulous since OTL, it started in the 1990s as a result of Anita Hill vs Clarence Thomas. Here, I figure stuff like healthcare and the Equal Rigths Amendment would lead to the rise of the third wave, but also be coinciding with the rise of the brightbangers (OTL Gen X), providing this fresh youthful energy and one that is willing to defy the actions and patterns of the past to stand out.
This won't be the last time it happens and will become more promiennt over time.
I do think I did a pretty good job in explaining the plausability of the events and that things could've beenbetter different and so on. I am still happy to answer questions and do what I can for this!
I do think that all of this stuff is plausible. Without the Reagan administration and instead with a presidential adminsitration that does care, LGBTQ rights would advance faster. An earlier third wave feminism is a bit nebulous since OTL, it started in the 1990s as a result of Anita Hill vs Clarence Thomas. Here, I figure stuff like healthcare and the Equal Rigths Amendment would lead to the rise of the third wave, but also be coinciding with the rise of the brightbangers (OTL Gen X), providing this fresh youthful energy and one that is willing to defy the actions and patterns of the past to stand out.
This won't be the last time it happens and will become more promiennt over time.
I do think I did a pretty good job in explaining the plausability of the events and that things could've been
Actually, one of the goals of OTL's Iran-Iraq war was encouraging Kurdish seperatism. And Kurds generally are all right within Iran for the most part: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurds#Iran
Compared to how they were treated in Iraq and Turkey... large scale of difference. And that would still be the same here.
Hmm, thinking of roles for other politicians andsuch in future.
Colin Powell: a future Secretary of Defense.
Georgy Arbatov: Either future Soviet Foreign Minister, or future Soviet President.
Vladimir Putin: KGB Director, either him or Alexander Litvinenko.
Colin Powell: a future Secretary of Defense.
Georgy Arbatov: Either future Soviet Foreign Minister, or future Soviet President.
Vladimir Putin: KGB Director, either him or Alexander Litvinenko.
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Totally forgot about former WA St Governor Dixie Lee Ray (D) becoming US Energy Secretary under the Udall administration.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixie_Lee_Ray
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@CountDVB Wondering if Udall hosted the 1984 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles with CA Governor Tom Bradley (D)?
Speaking of Bradley, since he's in the CA Governor's Mansion in Sacramento in this timeline, who succeeded Bradley as Los Angeles Mayor?
Speaking of Bradley, since he's in the CA Governor's Mansion in Sacramento in this timeline, who succeeded Bradley as Los Angeles Mayor?
Probably I imagine.
And unsure there. It’s gonna be harder to figure that out as the Overton window starts shifting to the left.
Powell might be butterflied out of his first major position as Deputy National Security Advisor under Reagan from our timeline. Without that experience he might not be appointed as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in this timeline if a Republican isn't in the Oval Office in 1989. Powell then wouldn't be in a position to be a possible future Secretary of Defense, Secretary of State, or Ambassador to the United Nations.
Yeah, that’s the big thing. Alot of the big name neocons (not all) are gonna their political prospects yanked out because of the changing times. It’s what makes this a fascinating change compared to OTL.
What happened to Jerry Litton in this timeline? He was a Missouri Congressman who had won the Democratic nomination for the 1976 Senate election but died in a plane crash on his way to his victory party. The Democrats then nominated a weak candidate for the Senate seat and they went on to lose the election in a landslide to John Danforth. Did Litton live in this timeline and get elected to the Senate? Will he be a possible presidential or vice presidential candidate in the future? Perhaps he will be on the bottom of the 1988 Democratic ticket under Vice President Reubin Askew?
If not a senator, what would become of John Danforth, who, having read about, I rather like?
Possible, but we don't much on his specific political leniances to say whether we would become a prominent player in the neo-progressive tide. Let us go with the assumption of him likely winning, with his reelection likely being by a bigger margin. He will likely remain close to his agricultural roots though.
He might go into the law. There is one thing noted from what I saw of him. "He was once quoted as saying he joined the Republican Party for "the same reason you sometimes choose which movie to see—[it's] the one with the shortest line.""
Given the growing chaos of the GOP, he might become an independent or just go join a law firm.
Fall 1985- Mario and Windows
Fall 1985- Mario and Windows
Sceenshot of Windows 1.0
1985 was shaping to be one of the most memorable years of the decade with everything that has been going on thus far. Even with the cooling of the temperatures over in the United States, this trend had not ceased. It has maintained itself in fact. The most noticeable impact would in fact be in the fields of technology and computing. The legendary Nintendo Entertainment System or Famicon as it was called in Japan is released in the United States, signifying a massive turning point in the video game industry. [1] For the most part, the industry had been focusing on home computers or arcade machines since it seemed like home consoles were not much of a seller. While this was primarily due to the economic problems in the late 70s and early 80s, other major factors was a lack of quality control, innovation and a push for more. However, everything changed with the introduction of Nintendo's NES, especially with one of its first big games released weeks earlier for it in Japan, none other than the legendary Super Mario Bros. Playing as two Italian plumber brothers Mario and Luigi, players must traverse various worlds to save Princess Toadstool from King Koopa. Opportunities to test the game in stores would make them wildly popular and restore faith in video game consoles. Additionally, while there were initial plans to market it as a toy aimed for boys, a combination of more recent market research on third-wave feminism 's growing influence on buying patterns and also skepticism on limitng their market meant the NES would be sold as a unisex item, one that anyone can play. One even compared it to how VCRs could play all sorts of films and be fit fo everyone, and thus it all depends on the popularity of the games in NES. Lastly, the surviving video game companies found themselves flat footed and concerned over Japan's innovation over theirs and trying to figure out how to respond, especially Atari, who rumor has it were looking for buyers on some of their assets.
Sceenshot of Windows 1.0
There were growing innovations and developments outside of just video games however. After months of a power struggle within his own company, founder of Apple Computer Steve Jobs would go on to resign from the company and he would go to create NeXT Inc with the help of various Apple members who have followed him. Many are wondering what the affects for the new company to be along with Apple's direction without Jobs. However, the next big thing would be none other than from Microsoft. In November, Microsoft Corporation would release the first international release of Windows 1.0. It would be quite the major milestone for Microsoft as it would be the fist in the Microsoft Windows line and would be a herald in the rise of Microsoft within the growing world of computers and technology. Lastly, in terms of news that would seem to be as a sort of counter to them would be the establishment of the non-profit organization known as the Free Software Foundation over in Massachusetts, done for the development and support of the free software movement. Fascinatingly enough, this would also get some attention from the US government, with rumors that the Foundation may be given grants by the US government for their work.
Of course, more was going on besides the realm of technology. Thanks to the efforts of the joint American-French expedition led by Dr. Robert Ballard (WHOI) and Jean-Louis Michel (IFREMER) using side-scan sonar from RV Knorr, the wreck of the famous RMS Titanic was finally found. The US and Canada would assist in providing relief after a 8.0 Mw earthquake strikes Mexico City, killing between 5,000 and 45,000 people and injuring 30,000 more. The Space Shuttle Atlantis makes its maiden flight and the first strip of the popular Calvin and Hobbes newspaper strip would be published. [1] Overall, the autumn brought as many fascinating and large scale changes as the rest of the year and people were wondering what will come next. Perhaps one big thing was over with Metromedia. Successor to the DuMont Television network, it would end up in the news due to a strange arrangements of failed deals and successes with Australian buisnessman Rupert Murdoch. Supposedly, there were plans for Metromedia founder John Kluge and Murdoch to purchase the shares in 20th-Century Fox over from Marc Rich and Marvin Davis though with the arrest of Rich for tax evasion among other many issues, David would end up with both shares after a series of events. [2] Additionally, the changing political times and the economic reforms along with other issues would make it more difficult for Murdoch to try and fulfill his ambitions and it would eventually disincentivize him. Murdoch noted a desire to create a fourth U.S. commercial broadcasting television network, hence his desire to purchase Metromedia's television stations though instead, Kluge would end up in acquiring the stocks over over Fox resulting in the 20th-Century Fox Studio now under Metromedia.
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[1]- Information and phrasing from here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985
[2]- Information from here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20th_Century_Studios#Marvin_Davis_and_Rupert_Murdoch
And yeah, I figure Murdoch would probably not be as inteested here, but Kluge may see his own opportunity, especially with Fox's cinematic successes. Would be happy to get some input here
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