umayyad caliphate

  1. Persians hold the Arabs back at the Zagros: what happens to the Umayyads?

    A few threads here have postulated what could happen in Persia and Central Asia if the Arabs fail to break through the Zagros into the core of Persia. But what happens to the Caliphates in that scenario, in particular the Umayyads? Persia and Khorasan were the power bases of the Abbasids. Are...
  2. WI - Umayyad Caliphate takes Constantinople

    What if the Umayyad Caliphate had been able to seize Constantinople? There were a couple sieges around the 7th and 8th centuries. During the 670s and during the 710s to be exact, the First and Second sieges of Constantinople. What if one those had actually succeeded, and that the invading...
  3. Justinian II conquers the Caliphate during second fitna

    what if Justinian II conquered the caliphate during second fitna when it was extremely weak
  4. Ali-id dynasty replaces Umayyad califate during the Third Fitna

    During the time of the Third Fitna and the decades before and after, there were a few notable Ali-id revolts attempting to replace the Umayyad and Abbasid califs. An example was the revolt by Muhammad al-Nafs al-Zakiyya in 762. My question is, with a POD as far back as the beginning of the 8th...
  5. Byzantine reconquer Syria and Egypt during First and second fitna

    What if Byzantines reconquer Syria and Egypt by allying with other Arabs against Umayyads during First and second fitna and supporting christian rebellions in the caliphate how would islam develop without ummayads and abbasids ? will this avoid twenty year anarchy?
  6. Lady Visenya

    WI: Mukhtar al-Thaqafi victory in the Second Fitna

    How can it happen, and more importantly... what would be the consequences for this (apparently?) pro-Alid faction based in Iraq winning out against the Umayyads? @John7755 يوحنا
  7. TL Planning/Brainstorming : Mu’awiya takes Constantinople

    I am planning to do a TL where the Umayyads take Constantinople under Mu’awiya . 1. My plan is too have a Islamic Greek speaking State 2. The PoD is under Mu’awyia . now its unknown when the siege actually took place , so i will just invent an ATL siege. 3. The Second Fitna or a parallel will...
  8. Lady Visenya

    Arab-Roman Treaty of 686 holds for thirty years

    So, the details of the treaty, what we know of them at least, made by Abd al-Malik and Justinian II are easy enough to look up. And while I think that it was unlikely that it was ever going to really hold long term, let alone in the form it had originally taken... I find myself curious. What if...
  9. WI: Byzantine Emperor converts to Islam?

    No, I'm not talking about Heraclius. I'm talking about the period leading up to the Umayyad siege of Constantinople in 717. During this time the Byzantines were wracked with internal problems and their morale was reeling. In OTL Leo III forced the abdication of a weaker emperor and managed to...
  10. Abd ar-Rahman II

    WI : The Umayyad win the Battle of the Nobles 740 / Berber revolt

    what If the Umayyad won the Battle of the Nobles OTL first big battle and victory for the Berber in the Berber revolt who would result in the first independent Muslim (even if heritic ) state outside of the Calipahte and the the loss of western Maghreb . I chose it over Bagdoura because...
  11. Abbasid Revolt Fail

    What if Ummayad figure out the plans of As-Saffah and co are able to stangled the revolt in his cradle?
  12. Bulgarian Sultanate

    Could Bulgaria become a sultanate between 700-850? How would Bulgaria be different from OTL? How would it affect history? (My first time here btw)
  13. Slavs/Avars take Thessalonica in 615/617?

    While the Sasanians were running amok in Syria and Anatolia during their climatic final war against the Eastern Roman Empire, the Slavs (615) and later a combined force composed of them and the Avars (617) tried to capture Thessalonica, probably the empire's second most important city in the...
  14. ERE reconquers Egypt in 646 AD?

    Four years after the fall of Alexandria to the Arab troops led by Amr ibn al-A'as, the young emperor of the Eastern Roman Empire, Constans II made an attempt to recapture the rich province of Egypt, which grew the grain that fed the population of Constantinople. The expedition, led by an officer...
  15. WI: Less discriminatory Umayyad Caliphate

    The Umayyad Caliphate is well known for discriminating against people who weren't Arab practitioners of Sunni Islam. What if the Umayyads were more inclusive?
  16. WI: Umayyad victory at the Battle of Covadonga

    What if the Umayyads had won the Battle of Covadonga? How might things have changed?
  17. WI: No Umayyad conquest of Hispania

    The Umayyad conquest of Hispania left an indelible mark on the Iberian peninsula. It resulted in the destruction of the Visigothic Kingdom, the period known as the Reconquista, and left impacts on the Iberian languages that are still seen to this day, among other things. So my question is...
  18. GauchoBadger

    WI: Turgesh victory at the Defile (731)

    The Battle of the Defile (731 AD, 109 AH) was a military engagement between forces of the Umayyad Caliphate, led by the governor of Khorasan, and forces of the Turgesh Khaganate, led by the warlord Suluk, who had, since ten years earlier, been raiding and ravaging Transoxiana after kicking the...
  19. WI: Sassanian-Tang alliance reconquer Persia from the caliphate?

    After the exiled Persian king Peroz III died in China in 679, his son Narseh was given an army by the Tang emperor to reconquer Persia. The project failed, the Chinese army stopped after retaking the Tarim basin and Narseh was unable to rally the Persians to his cause. But what if the...
  20. AHC: Dabuyid Persia

    Some dumb idea I've been thinking in the last few days. The scenario in particular takes an Abbasid Revolution that is suppressed by the ruling Umayyad Caliphate but the revolt cause enough noise that the Caliphate eastern provinces in great unrest as the multiple anti-Umayyad partisans are now...
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