TL-191: After the End
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By 2024, there isn’t a close analogue to the X-Men in US popular culture.
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The presence of beings analogous in power to the mutants of the X-Men in the 20th Century would ultimately have a significant effect on world affairs. While they would face widespread social prejudice around the world, most governments would probably attempt to use the most powerful of these beings for their own ends.
The world by the 20th Century in TTL is more militaristic compared to our world, with engrained traditions of national service, and one of the themes of the TL-191 series is of nations pursuing revanchism if defeated in war. The governments of different nations in this world, including all of the great powers, would probably come to view mutants as another part of their respective military arsenals, depending on the nature and level of power identified in each person. An Omega level mutant, depending on the nature of their power, might have the same status in a nation like the United States as a superbomb, or arsenal of superbombs.
The appearance of a powerful Omega level mutant or mutants who are loyal to nation seeking to challenge the existing great powers would might cause an international crisis, if not another Great War, but this one involving superbeings with different kinds of destructive powers.
Is there an analogue to SpongeBob Squarepants ITTL? If not, what's the closest thing to it?
By 2024, there isn’t a close analogue to SpongeBob SquarePants from our world.
Status of Chickens during the two Great Wars?
I'd also be interested in seeing a biography of the fellow who led the team which discovered the Tomb of Tutankhamun in your TL ~ 191 Universe, as I've been binge playing Pharaoh: A New Era as well as Total War: Pharaoh recently. [when it comes to the subject of world history, I am a huge nerd.]
I'd also be interested in seeing a biography of the fellow who led the team which discovered the Tomb of Tutankhamun in your TL ~ 191 Universe, as I've been binge playing Pharaoh: A New Era as well as Total War: Pharaoh recently. [when it comes to the subject of world history, I am a huge nerd.]
I would assume that chickens, and other livestock, were subject to rationing in the nations that fought in the two Great Wars.
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In TTL, the tomb of Tutankhamun was discovered in 1950 by a German archaeological expedition that consisted of specialists on ancient Egypt for different universities.
During the first generation after the end of the Second Great War, the different US military administrations maintained a tight control over the schools and universities in the former CSA, some of which had to be rebuilt from the ground up after the devastation of the war. It was also necessary to reverse a part of life in the region that had once been controlled by the Freedom Party.
Many of the new schools, universities, and programs to train teachers in the postwar Midsouth were initially heavily staffed by volunteers from elsewhere the United States. The US authorities, beginning in the 1950s, also began to encourage scholarships for students from the Midsouth to attend universities outside of the region.
I assume that due to that, along with other factors, would the former CSA (with the exceptions of powerhouse states such as Texas, Cuba, and maybe even Florida) have less population thus less electoral votes (like our Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, and most of the west coast)? How would this impact the standard of living and quality of those states in comparison to other states?
While this question might have been answered, I'm a bit surprised that it took so long for Texas into readmit itself back into the Union in the 2160s. Like, wouldn't the US government have pressured the Texans into rejoining them as soon as possible.
While I get that Texas had former Confederate citizens (those who lived there pre-SGW and after with immigrants who didn't want to live in the US). Wouldn't by every passing generation the Texans would want to rejoin the US and distance themselves from both Featherston and the CSA by the 21st Century?
What is life in the Republic of Texas like and comparable to by 2024?
How is both the CSA and Featherston viewed by that time in Texas as well?
Is there a debate within Texas to rejoin the Union in 2024?
While I get that Texas had former Confederate citizens (those who lived there pre-SGW and after with immigrants who didn't want to live in the US). Wouldn't by every passing generation the Texans would want to rejoin the US and distance themselves from both Featherston and the CSA by the 21st Century?
What is life in the Republic of Texas like and comparable to by 2024?
How is both the CSA and Featherston viewed by that time in Texas as well?
Is there a debate within Texas to rejoin the Union in 2024?
Yeah, I am too surprised that Texas wasn't joined to USA by 2024 since it was even able to re-annex and absbord former CSA. Texas should be easy thing since eventually die-hard Confederate exiles would are minority. And probably there would be lot of educational efforts to make clear how evil Featherston's CSA was and even pre-Frredomite CSA wasn't nice place for Blacks.
One reason Texas wasn't immediately reabsorbed into the United States was to provide a sort of "safety valve" for any extremist Confederates who would be completely opposed to living under Northern rule. Invading Texas militarily, while an option for the US, may have sparked another rebellion from the South.
It seems to me that Texas sort of fills the role of Austria. In OTL, the Austrian government never really took full responsibility for atrocities committed within their borders during the Holocaust, viewing Austria as a victim of Nazi Germany's territorial expansion rather than a collaborator. It took until the late 90s/early 2000s for Austrian historians to bring more attention to the country's role in the Holocaust.
Texas apparently went down a similar path post-SGW, only granting reparations to Destruction survivors who lived in Texas from 1941-1944. David has mentioned that LBJ in TTL wrote a book detailing the role Texas had in the Destruction, which the Texan government opposed the publishing of. It looks like Texas still faces issues in acknowledging its role in the Confederate atrocities by 2024, probably a result of the hard line anti-Unionists who moved to the region after the SGW. This could be a major issue when rejoining the Union would come up.
This made me laugh. Why is TL-191 Texas so similar to our Texas lmao? Some things never change I guess. Texas being the state that notoriously edits their history is probably a canon event.
The states of the postwar Midsouth did not have populations comparable to states like Wyoming, Montana, or Idaho. However, large numbers of people began to leave the Midsouth in the 1980s for mostly economic reasons.
The Midsouth never fully recovered either demographically or economically from its disastrous early 20th Century.
One reason for why the United States did not immediately annex Texas after the end of the Fourth Pacific War was because of military commitments elsewhere in North America, including the occupation of the rest of the former CSA and the short military operation in the late 1940s to take control of Alaska.
Texas also served as a destination for over three million people from the former CSA in the first generation after the end of the Second Great War who did not want to remain under US rule. This has the effect of creating a large constituency in Texas opposed to reunion with the USA.
By the late 20th Century and early 21st Century, there were some in Texas who favored reunion with the United States, mostly from the business community. Popular support for reunification in Texas did not increase until the 2020s, because of the effects of the Great Housing Crash.
By 2024, the CSA and Featherston are not remembered favorably in Texas. The crimes of Featherston and the Freedom Party have not been forgotten.
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I was wondering, and if you answered this before my apologies, what is the state of sports in the United States and the world at large?
In the books they mention that football is the major sport over baseball but I was curious to see what the lists of teams in each major sport league.
In the books they mention that football is the major sport over baseball but I was curious to see what the lists of teams in each major sport league.