Ivan and Russia as a whole would have been MUCH better off if dear anastasia was allowed to live.
The Grand Duchy of the West - A Valois-Burgundian TL
- Thread starter BlueFlowwer
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Hmmm. I'm gonna look around. I need to find a Greek or Latin lady born around 1500 for the purpose of important shenanigans.
Have a Palailogos marry a Hungarian king for maximum shenanigans.
I think I have a better option then that. Wanna watch me screw around with the ottomans?
Now that is fun indeed... I'd like to see the Greeks rule their own lands. After all, Turkish rule hadn't continued for that long for now.
Or Palailogos-Monsferrat?
Are there any greek ruling houses in 1500? Thanks for the tip about the Monsferrats! *skedaddles away to create shenanigans*
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Tommaso Diplovataccio - Wikipedia
Since the Vatatzes were part of the ruling family of the Emperor of Nicaea you can have his descendants claim the imperial throne too, since Greek emperors have married prostitutes so it should be fine, and he married a trader's daughter.
Tbf the main problem with this is that if Europe takes over the Balkans it'd be run more like the Latin Empire in the eyes of the Greeks if the rulers are still Catholic.
That was exactly what I was looking for! You really are the best!
That are something I have to mull over.
aww thx! the Vatatzes are a cool family, and having the empire be ruled by a Diplovatatzes is cool.
yeah they'd have to walk a fine line for European support and happy subjects.
I never said that the empire would be involved. I'm thinking of a different kingdom. Mwahaha!
I'm planning a possible west/east clash in the HRE around the 1520s.
Awwww...
Seeing the Ottomans collapse early would still be interesting tho.
If you're doing something that doesn't affect the Greeks tho I'd think Palailogos-Monsferrat would be a better choice, since they're very much part of the European community.
Ooh this is fun indeed. I'm defo interested in what you cook up...
Think Ottoman wank, lady born around 1500 and the east ortodoxy area. Those are pretty good hints of what I'm thinking off.
Hmm... Seeing the Ottomans wanked makes me sad, but seeing eastern orthodoxy being brought into the European fold better is always a treat.
I never said that the ottomans would be wanked for the worse.
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Hmm I guess I'll just have to wait then!I never said that the ottomans would be wanked for the worse.
Indeed you have to. I'm plotting a lot of things as I'm updating.
Hmm that's good in general. A Greek dynasty in Italy or the Balkans would be fun in general tho.