North And South:The Split

Straha

Banned
POD: 1864, Another commander besdies Sherman is assigned to atlanta atlanta holds which causes tenesee,maryland and the garrison in olkahoma terretory to declare for the confederacy. A democrat president is elected and he asks the brits to help mediate. The brits give the USA bermuda(good strategic locations) for $2,000,000 as a bribe to recognize the CSA and leave it alone.

1865-the CSA gets the areas that declared for the confederacy in a formal treaty.
-The american capitol moved to manhatten
-After the saddning loss of the union ideas like anti-immigration and temperence that were part of the republican platform are discredited

1866-the USA begins a crash program to have a strong military including mandatory conscription,heavy funding of research and development
-rememberence day(may 15th) is established as a holiday

1867-13th,14th anf 15th amendments passed which outlawslavery,extend the right to vote to all free men and give all free men equal rights respectively are passed.

1868-the USA establishes some tariffs but amkes the tariffs looser for great britian.
-alaska brought by britian and attached to canada

1869-secession made illegal in the 16th amandment
-universal conscription estallished in the USA

1870-Bermuda given statehood

1871-Abraham lincoln splits from the republicans and forms the socialist party. The socialist party is socially liberal and economially liberal.
-temperence movements appear in the CSA as they die off up north

1872-Spain's pacific possesions conquered by america, the phillipines remain spanish.

1873-the USA establsihes a 2 ocean nazy to defend against any powers

1875-the CSA buys Cuba and Puerto rico from spain.
-The Moral Imperative which is strict enforcement of the new amendments begins and it ends by 1890 with americans

1876-Sherman running on te democratic ticket beats tilden.
-a revolt in cuba and puerto rico begins

1877-the USA begins to establish more thorough compulsory schooling wihch makes literacy start rising to near-Scandinavian levels

1879-America establishes direct election for senators

1880-Hawai and samoa annexed by the USA
-the SA begins establishing exile from the country as a punishmen

1881-a small sharp of anti-confederate feeling causes practically all of the baptists and other related groups to flee down south.

1882-CSA buys northern mexico and the Yucatan from Maxamillina's regime and the USA squacks but does nothing.
-the usa purchases panama from colombia

1883-in order to avoid having the USA,france and great britian declare war the CSA ends slavery in compenstated emancipation
-Terretories of Calakamul,campeche,yucatan,satander,arizona(coahilla),nuevo leon,taumpalipas,sonora,baja del norte,baja del sur and chuihaha establsihed.
-the indian wars are ended in america.

1884-the CSA is forced to recognize cuba and puerto rico.
-argentina's population reaches 18 million

1885-in order to protect itself from confederate incursions, santo domingo offers to join the union, president Sherman accepts it.

1886-the USA's population reaches 63 million and the CSA re aches 25 million

1889-Yucstan,consisting of the confederate yucatan terretories and northern guatamala sucessfuly revolts.
-the CSA attempts to reconquer yucatan ails

1890-the USA begins building the panama canal and doctors are in to treat the disease, and engineers in to destroy the swamps and other mosquito breeding grounds.
-japan conquers the phillipines
-the first submachine gun is invented by the americans
 
Why did Cuba, Puerto Rico, and Yuctan rebel? Did the other Northern Mexican states rebel? When is the next part being posted?
 
"Atlanta holds which causes Tennessee, Maryland and the garrison in Oklahoma Territory to declare for the Confederacy."

Nope. First of all, Tennessee has long since declared its allegiance to the CSA. Second, by 1864, Abraham Lincoln has pretty much locked up all the CSA-sympathizers in Maryland. Maryland ain't going to secede. Third, Indian Territory has no whites in it other than a minor garrison and that garrison, obviously, is composed of Northern soldiers. Northern soldiers aren't going to defect. Lastly, Grant is driving on Richmond as we speak. Richmond will fall, government will flee, war will end 2-3 months later with a US victory.

"The American capital moved to Manhattan."

First of all, citizens of the CSA are Americans, too. The US capital is moved, not the American capital. Second, the US has had their capital invaded from sea once and, probably in this TL, burned twice. They're going to move the capital someplace safe and secure. I'd suggest Philadelphia temporarily and Syracuse-Elmira-Ithaca-Birmingham, New York, in the long run.

"The USA begins a crash program to have a strong military including mandatory conscription and heavy funding of research and development."

Uh Uh. The US is going to become enormously weak for, at least, the next four years. A nation's military never comes out of a crushing defeat, especially in a Civil War, better off than they started.

"Bermuda given statehood."

Nope, too small. You're going to need 60,000 adult male residents for that going to happen.

"Sherman running on the democratic ticket beats Tilden."

Umm, why is Tilden running against his own party?

"CSA buys northern Mexico and the Yucatan from Maxamillian's regime and the USA squacks but does nothing."

No. 1) This deal would never happen according to the territories that you later have them owning. Much, MUCH, too big of a purchase. Maybe, if the CSA is lucky, Sonora and Chihuahua, but no more. 2) If, by a freak chance, this sale did go through, you'd have a war between the CSA and USA.

"First submachine gun is invented by the Americans."

Do you mean the US again? Or did the CSA invent it?
 
Aside from the idea of the British selling Bermuda to the Americans, which is silly, there is no place (I'm fairly sure) called Manhattan, New York. Actually there may be, but it appears likely that Straha is refering to Manhattan a borough of New York City. There may be Manhattan, an incorporated city in upstate New York (or even in Ohio, there is no indication of what state), but in association to New York City, theres no such place. I also doubt that the representatives of the Midwest would go along with that.
 

Straha

Banned
1 in the TL america for a time gets really close to war with britain so britain bribes off america with bermuda...

2 incompetence among local officicals and sheer rascism on the confederate's part.

3 the deal is a desperate measure but maxamillian gets killed... in 1896. The mexicna terretories will be revolt prone so they might later decide to split them among the union/mexico and sell them.

4 the USA reevaluates its army and decides to fix it

5 the democrat party splits into the union party and the democrat party

6 they pick new york city becasue its a big city and the capitol is in the manhatten parto f new york city to help with sea trade.

7 political corruptioncan do wonders with a census that decides statehood. Democrat political corruption of course... ;)
 
Okay the capital is in New York City.

Strange peace treaty the third member, completely not involved in the war just brokering the peace, gives up a strategic position for no good reason.
 

Straha

Banned
its a backroom deal, the USA becomes VERY close to declaring war on britain and the brits talk them out of it by selling thme bermuda
 

Straha

Banned
1891-a S supreme court resoltuion states that american citizens who immigrated from the CSA have all the smae rights as americnas who were born in the USA.
-the american socialist party condemns communists as being undemocratic and a corruption of marx's views

1892-the confederate constitution is amended to allow for reelection of presidents

1894-the mormon church

1895-the american socialist party gains a majority in the house and senate.

1900-motorized bycicles called moterctycles are invented and the US military buts several
-teddy roosevelt wins election

190-1the Wright brothers fly the first airplane

1905-Japan takes the kurils and sakhalin away from russia.

1907-as china is sufferign economic trouble sinkiang,manchuria

1908-Teddy roosevelt announce
-germany invents its first submachine guns

1909-women gain the right to vote in america

1910-the mexican civil war spreads to coahilla,taumpalipas and nuevo leon

1912-new mexico,deseret and arizona get statehood

1914-in a spate of reform, president LaFollete establishes proportitional representation

1915-the first tank is invented by the union
-the first bipalne bombers are ivntented by gemrnayt

1916-zimmerman telegram leads to relationships between the US and entente gettign closer
-socialist candidate Robert LaFollete elected to a second term
-Hitler dies in trench near paris
-jazz music begins to beocme popular in the USA(the CSA represses it and jazzists are deported)
-the CSA's military leaves nuevo leon,taumpalipas and coahilla whiel keeping a itght hold on the other mexican states.

1917-the russian revolution
-the russian royal family flees to britain
-the USA sends troops as advisors including many tanks
-the CSA deports the meixcna populations in texas,sonora,chuihaha,baja del norte and baja del sur. Most mexicans that got deported in that way flee to the USA where they become democrat voters.

1918-the union enters the great war on the side of the entente
-the treaty of versailles which is far less harsh than OTL. Germany keeps its pre-1914 borders in east while it loses the colonies and alsace-lorraine with less limitations on the military.
-the census of 1918 shows that the CSA is majority black
-Joe Stalin flees the USSR

1919-As the red scare begins, social democracy becomes well respected and acceptable with the american socialist party getting more votes. In fact some of the most vocal anti-communists are the far left radicals in the socialist party.

1920-leon trotsky suceeds lenin as head of the USSR

1921-benito mussolini chokes on steak and the fascist movement

1922-italy stays democratic despite unrest and an atte

1928-Joseph Stalin is killed by an agent of trotsy with an ice pick in hermosillo.

1929-the great depression begins, the right wing politics of the 20's are largely discredited as social democracy becomes more popular
 

Straha

Banned
during the ocld war and its not really an alliance in military terms. The japanese will support sny country that believes in being anti-western by giving them money. WWII will be the USA,britain,japan,france,germany, Canada,the democratic side in mexico,cubam the communist regime in yucatan and the confederacy against Trotskyist russia,china and the communist faction in mexico. The USA's reaction to the Japan and the CSA post WWII will be like the reaction to stalin, allies during the war but disliked post war. Japan will occupy various parts of east asia. On another note I have martin luthor king's family move north before he's born so he'll be eligible to be elected presidnet so no bitching about me having President King.
 
wouldn't the Communist Regime in Yuctan be an ally of Russia, Communist China and Communist Mexico? How does the Confederacy contribute to the war effort(supplies, troops, etc.....)
 

Straha

Banned
it helps in the mexican and central american fronts. Yucatan will have belize added in to it in 1945 after a vote is taken.
 

Straha

Banned
North America IN 1930

na-1930.GIF
 
Why does the USA invent tanks??? tanks were invented to breakthrough the trench warfare of WWI. Yet the USA doesn't enter the war until 4 years after they invent the tank. and why would the germans send the zimmerman telegram if mexico doesn't have a border witht he USA and can't possibly attack them? Why in the world would the CSA want mexican territory when it is unfertile and has a extremely low white population? Why did Stalin flee Russia? Why would the party of the worst president (in your atl) become so popular wouldn't the connection to Lincoln be a terribly black mark on the party? Why would the USA take other pacific territories of spain and not the Phillipines?
 
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